Gas leak repairs 'costing me thousands every day' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus) - Bradford Telegraph Argus Gas leak repairs 'costing me thousands every day' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus) - Bradford Telegraph Argus
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Monday, June 18, 2012

Gas leak repairs 'costing me thousands every day' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus) - Bradford Telegraph Argus

Gas leak repairs 'costing me thousands every day' (From Bradford Telegraph and Argus) - Bradford Telegraph Argus

Gas leak repairs 'costing me thousands every day'

A furious Bradford businessman is still waiting for workmen to complete repairs to a gas leak which has severely disrupted his operations – after nearly two months.

Amjad Pervez, managing director of Seafresh Wholesale Distributors, said the business had lost hundreds of thousands of pounds due to repair work which has isolated his head office. Closing a local cash and carry operation alone had cost at least £20,000 a day in lost takings.

He reported the leak after smelling gas on April 19 and Northern Gas Networks engineers required around 60 staff to evacuate the firm’s offices on Mount Street, off Bowling Back Lane. Gas was leaking from one of the principle mains serving the Bradford area buried deep underground.

Mr Pervez, whose company is a major supplier of food and drinks for caterers and also operates nine cash and carry warehouses, said he had spent £70,000 on converting a nearby warehouse into temporary offices after the repair works surrounded his premises. Daily container deliveries of supplies to the Mount Street warehouse had also been hit by the gas works.

Mr Pervez has enlisted the help of Bradford East MP David Ward to try and find out why the work has taken so long and when it will be completed.

He said: “This has caused tremendous disruption to our business and cost us hundreds of thousands of pounds. It’s still going on after nearly two months and there doesn’t seem to be any end in sight.

“We had to vacate the building within an hour of reporting the leak, which was a nightmare. We had to reorganise data and phone lines and re-house staff in an old warehouse we own nearby which is not big enough to accommodate everyone. I have staff working from home and others are hot desking to enable us to carry on.

“I was promised daily updates by NGN but that only happened for the first few days. Since then I’'ve had to chase them and have been passed around to different numbers. I’ve spent 70 per cent of my time on this issue since it started and I believe there’s been a lack of management on the ground by NGN. It’s unbelievable that the work is taking so long.”

David Ward visited the site and described what he found as “a mess”. He will meet senior NGN officials there next weekend and discuss ways of resolving the matter.

He said: “I want NGN to explain why the work has taken nearly two months and when it will be finished. It’s clearly a big job but it has cost Mr Pervez hard cash and much disruption and I don’t believe he has been treated properly by the company. It’s not good enough for someone to shrug their shoulders and say it’s nothing to do with them when asked questions.”

Northern Gas Networks said it had ensured access to the Seafresh warehouse was maintained. The offices were closed as a safety precaution and regular face-to-face and telephone contact had been maintained with Mr Pervez and other nearby gas customers..

NGN said: “We are sorry that Mr Pervez feels that our communication with him could have been better and will address this with him directly to see where we can improve.

“We have carried out extensive engineering works to get things back to normal as quickly as possible. However, unavoidably complex and time-consuming works have been required. We know this is not ideal but we cannot take chances when it comes to gas safety.

“In addition, the geography of the area requires us to dig very deep to work on our mains. This impacts on the time it takes to complete works as we must ensure the excavations will not collapse – special supports have been constructed for this job.

“As part of the engineering work completed to date we replaced a section of gas main extending out to Bowling Back Lane. This work was completed last week and stopped the gas readings.”

Comments(22)

Joedavid says...
8:02am Mon 18 Jun 12

The number of leaks getting repaired around where I live makes me wonder if the pipes are well past their use by dates and gas pipes have been badly looked after over the years. Is it in the same way that that water pipes leak through lack of care from water companies this is well known. Joedavid

Camicus says...
9:17am Mon 18 Jun 12

He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom Camicus

Albion. says...
10:57am Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]Camicus[/bold] wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom[/p][/quote]Absolutely! Albion.

Albion. says...
11:02am Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: The number of leaks getting repaired around where I live makes me wonder if the pipes are well past their use by dates and gas pipes have been badly looked after over the years. Is it in the same way that that water pipes leak through lack of care from water companies this is well known.[/p][/quote]How exactly do you suggest that they are looked after? dig them all up every year to see if they look OK? There has been a constant program of gas pipes being replaces with modern materials but they can't do everything in an instant. The water companies publish their investment and actions against leaks annually. Albion.

Joedavid says...
11:34am Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joedavid[/bold] wrote: The number of leaks getting repaired around where I live makes me wonder if the pipes are well past their use by dates and gas pipes have been badly looked after over the years. Is it in the same way that that water pipes leak through lack of care from water companies this is well known.[/p][/quote]How exactly do you suggest that they are looked after? dig them all up every year to see if they look OK? There has been a constant program of gas pipes being replaces with modern materials but they can't do everything in an instant. The water companies publish their investment and actions against leaks annually.[/p][/quote]Think you got it right with comparrison with water companies, they let theirs get into a very bad state of leaks and were forced to set up a program of replacement. Around here the gas pipes are iron and they know they well past thier use by date, it is to be a long wait before they are brought up to date, the program is not good enough. Joedavid

mohammedyousaf says...
11:37am Mon 18 Jun 12

Camicus wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom Absolutely! some of the people making comments don't actually even bother to read the reporting before they make stupid remarks First of all I don't suspect any of them have ever run a business or created any wealth and employment of any kind Secondly the gentleman whose business is being badly disrupted is not arguing that the gas people should not carry out the works.....his argument is that the process of engagement has been patchy and has not been correct and the length of time taken to fix the problem has gone on for too long This fact is confirmed by David Ward MP Do we really want another 100 or so people on dole in Bradford because of this carry on and the fiasco caused by the gas firm? im sure those losing their jobs wouldn't share those making these silly remarks mohammedyousaf

Albion. says...
11:43am Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]mohammedyousaf[/bold] wrote: Camicus wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom Absolutely! some of the people making comments don't actually even bother to read the reporting before they make stupid remarks First of all I don't suspect any of them have ever run a business or created any wealth and employment of any kind Secondly the gentleman whose business is being badly disrupted is not arguing that the gas people should not carry out the works.....his argument is that the process of engagement has been patchy and has not been correct and the length of time taken to fix the problem has gone on for too long This fact is confirmed by David Ward MP Do we really want another 100 or so people on dole in Bradford because of this carry on and the fiasco caused by the gas firm? im sure those losing their jobs wouldn't share those making these silly remarks[/p][/quote]Is he qualified to make such a judgement? Albion.

justjustice says...
1:04pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Camicus[/bold] wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom[/p][/quote]Absolutely![/p][/quote]lmao! How would you like it if you were losing £20,000 every day! Yet still had to pay your employees, utilities, relocate your business to another warehouse, reconnect the phone lines, make sure you still meet health and safety regs and much more!! This guy has a right to complain. justjustice

Albion. says...
1:14pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Camicus[/bold] wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom[/p][/quote]Absolutely![/p][/quote]lmao! How would you like it if you were losing £20,000 every day! Yet still had to pay your employees, utilities, relocate your business to another warehouse, reconnect the phone lines, make sure you still meet health and safety regs and much more!! This guy has a right to complain.[/p][/quote]You have to accept that these things happen though. Albion.

justjustice says...
1:42pm Mon 18 Jun 12

Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it. Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy. justjustice

Tim Love says...
1:45pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]mohammedyousaf[/bold] wrote: Camicus wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom Absolutely! some of the people making comments don't actually even bother to read the reporting before they make stupid remarks First of all I don't suspect any of them have ever run a business or created any wealth and employment of any kind Secondly the gentleman whose business is being badly disrupted is not arguing that the gas people should not carry out the works.....his argument is that the process of engagement has been patchy and has not been correct and the length of time taken to fix the problem has gone on for too long This fact is confirmed by David Ward MP Do we really want another 100 or so people on dole in Bradford because of this carry on and the fiasco caused by the gas firm? im sure those losing their jobs wouldn't share those making these silly remarks[/p][/quote]The people making these idiotic remarks are well-known Islamophobes and racists. . If this was a White individual involved, they'd be sticking up for him. Since he's Asian (and Muslim), they take the opposite view. Tim Love

Albion. says...
1:47pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it. Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy.[/p][/quote]By who exactly? Albion.

Reality001 says...
2:04pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Camicus[/bold] wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom[/p][/quote]Absolutely![/p][/quote]lmao! How would you like it if you were losing £20,000 every day! Yet still had to pay your employees, utilities, relocate your business to another warehouse, reconnect the phone lines, make sure you still meet health and safety regs and much more!! This guy has a right to complain.[/p][/quote]If the business is fully insured then he will be protected against loss of earnings. His insurance company will then decide whether to persue the gas company Reality001

Camicus says...
4:40pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]Tim Love[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mohammedyousaf[/bold] wrote: Camicus wrote: He would have a bit more to moan about if the whole thing went Ka-booom Absolutely! some of the people making comments don't actually even bother to read the reporting before they make stupid remarks First of all I don't suspect any of them have ever run a business or created any wealth and employment of any kind Secondly the gentleman whose business is being badly disrupted is not arguing that the gas people should not carry out the works.....his argument is that the process of engagement has been patchy and has not been correct and the length of time taken to fix the problem has gone on for too long This fact is confirmed by David Ward MP Do we really want another 100 or so people on dole in Bradford because of this carry on and the fiasco caused by the gas firm? im sure those losing their jobs wouldn't share those making these silly remarks[/p][/quote]The people making these idiotic remarks are well-known Islamophobes and racists. . If this was a White individual involved, they'd be sticking up for him. Since he's Asian (and Muslim), they take the opposite view.[/p][/quote]Well known Racist and Islamaphobe? As this is my first post on this site ever I would ask you to retract or prove your assertation. Camicus

mohammedyousaf says...
4:47pm Mon 18 Jun 12

"If the business is fully insured then he will be protected against loss of earnings. His insurance company will then decide whether to persue the gas company" Albion its very brave and "intelligent" of you to make such a statement However,if ANYONE makes ANY claim against their own insurance....What do you think will happen to their premiums for the coming years?!! so why should any business increase the cost of their future insurance when they were not responsible for the loss or claim in the first place particularly in the current economic climate?!! mohammedyousaf

Albion. says...
4:59pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]mohammedyousaf[/bold] wrote: "If the business is fully insured then he will be protected against loss of earnings. His insurance company will then decide whether to persue the gas company" Albion its very brave and "intelligent" of you to make such a statement However,if ANYONE makes ANY claim against their own insurance....What do you think will happen to their premiums for the coming years?!! so why should any business increase the cost of their future insurance when they were not responsible for the loss or claim in the first place particularly in the current economic climate?!![/p][/quote]I didn't make such a statement. Albion.

justjustice says...
5:59pm Mon 18 Jun 12

Albion. wrote:
justjustice wrote:
Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it.

Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy.
By who exactly?
No you didnt, Reality001 did, but mohammed is correct, this guy's premium will go up if he does make a claim, even if the insurance company get it from the gas company. The insurance company will say that since he made a claim his insurance premium will go up.

By WHOM you ask? Well the small businesses which have closed should be compensated by Westfield. This guy, by the gas company. But of course we live in a world where corporations are above the law, that their needs and profits are placed before the people.
[quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it. Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy.[/p][/quote]By who exactly?[/p][/quote]No you didnt, Reality001 did, but mohammed is correct, this guy's premium will go up if he does make a claim, even if the insurance company get it from the gas company. The insurance company will say that since he made a claim his insurance premium will go up. By WHOM you ask? Well the small businesses which have closed should be compensated by Westfield. This guy, by the gas company. But of course we live in a world where corporations are above the law, that their needs and profits are placed before the people. justjustice

Albion. says...
6:03pm Mon 18 Jun 12

justjustice wrote:
Albion. wrote:
justjustice wrote:
Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it.

Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy.
By who exactly?
No you didnt, Reality001 did, but mohammed is correct, this guy's premium will go up if he does make a claim, even if the insurance company get it from the gas company. The insurance company will say that since he made a claim his insurance premium will go up.

By WHOM you ask? Well the small businesses which have closed should be compensated by Westfield. This guy, by the gas company. But of course we live in a world where corporations are above the law, that their needs and profits are placed before the people.
Westfield would then be even less likely to favour Bradford if that were the case, the cost of gas is high enough already!
[quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Albion.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]justjustice[/bold] wrote: Yes you do, but you it's not their fault for the loss of business either and they shouldnt have to pay for it. Just like with the small businesses that have closed around the Hole, they've closed due to lack of visitors to the area, thanks to Westfield mothballing the shopping centre. It's not their fault, they were told it'd only be a couple of years, and yet 8 years later still a hole in the ground. Those businesses should be compensated for the loss of business, as should this guy.[/p][/quote]By who exactly?[/p][/quote]No you didnt, Reality001 did, but mohammed is correct, this guy's premium will go up if he does make a claim, even if the insurance company get it from the gas company. The insurance company will say that since he made a claim his insurance premium will go up. By WHOM you ask? Well the small businesses which have closed should be compensated by Westfield. This guy, by the gas company. But of course we live in a world where corporations are above the law, that their needs and profits are placed before the people.[/p][/quote]Westfield would then be even less likely to favour Bradford if that were the case, the cost of gas is high enough already! Albion.

arm grab man says...
7:26pm Mon 18 Jun 12

if the works are costing this guy 100's of thousands of pounds i'm in the wrong business. anybody want to buy some fish? arm grab man

a reasonable sort of chap says...
8:23pm Mon 18 Jun 12

Perhaps it's time we stopped taking so much from the sea and causing so much damage to marine eco-systems. Eat less fish. a reasonable sort of chap

lazybeat says...
9:59pm Mon 18 Jun 12

anyone thought that the repair are getting payed based on time. Stay for 2 month get paid for 2 month lazybeat

Albion. says...
10:05pm Mon 18 Jun 12

[quote][p][bold]lazybeat[/bold] wrote: anyone thought that the repair are getting payed based on time. Stay for 2 month get paid for 2 month[/p][/quote]No, They work full time anyway so if they weren't there they would be doing much the same thing somewhere else. Albion.

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